Prs. Larry Kirkpatrick and Mike Lambert discuss the theological move of denominations which approve women's ordination and their inevitable drift into approval of same-sex unions. They consider how one and only one denomination so far has turned back from this---by reestablishing a historical-grammatical interpretive plan at their seminary. Discussion turns, with some regret, to the current situation of the Seventh-day Adventist Theological Seminary located in Berrien Springs, MI. The women's ordination-favoring theological approach of the current dean is investigated, and the core presupposition identified. All this, in just 13 minutes.